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				Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:01 pm
				by alfadave
				Just did a 300 mile blast in my S2 sud.
It has a 1.5,  95 bhp engine.
Had rebore and new pistons and rings a bit back.
Exhaust smoke becoming evident on cold start up recently.
But on a long uphill road ,under load, quite a trail of smoke behind me.
I did wonder if one of the new rings had failed. But a comp test shows  210, 215, 220,220.
Could it be valve guides?
Or valve stem oil seals?
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:46 pm
				by NEG
				Ours does it as well, also on a long downhill section with the throttle closed.  I suspect it’s valve stem oil seals.
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:45 pm
				by Alfastrut
				Mine smoked on downhill with throttle closed. Changed valve stem seals no change Still smokes . Mine only had seals on the inlets was wondering if I should of put some on the exhausts valves.
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:40 am
				by alfadave
				I've bought a set of 8 valve stem oil seals.
But I wondered if worn valve guides were a common fault?
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:40 pm
				by NEG
				If you don’t have seals on the exhaust valves then it will still smoke.
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:52 am
				by alfadave
				Ian at Justsuds tells me that Sud valve guides rarely wear.
But to check for  play by rocking side to side.
He also says to use 8 oil seals (sorry Craig!)
He stocks the oil seals, and can get the guides in to order.
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:49 pm
				by Alfastrut
				When I take the engine out for  the cars respray I will pop some in . It's funny how there are only four seals in a head gasket set and mine only had the seals on the inlets .
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:32 pm
				by alfadave
				Correction.
Ian at Sudshop!
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:30 pm
				by Kegsti66
				My valve guides were fine when my heads were overhauled, I only had seals on the inlet valves, but a new set of eight have been fitted, along with new exhaust valves.
			 
			
					
				Re: Exhaust oil smoke
				Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:22 am
				by PETROLHEAD
				As a quick rule, oil smoke on the throttle is combustion chamber leak by, ie oil scavenge and or piston rings, worn bore etc,
But off the throttle smoke, or immediately following a gear change, or idle at lights, junction etc you get a small cloud clearance pulling away, is usually valve stem seals, or at least a leak by in that area.
Usually!