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Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:18 pm
by KevJTD
Johnboy wrote:Hi chap
Is this guy a full time sprayer? Oil in the line is not good . he should have dryer's inline !
i'd better not call him what i want to.........

Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:19 pm
by KevJTD
Kermit wrote:KevJTD wrote:Kermit wrote:Seems to have stopped at the mo
new paint guys too busy to do a "test piece"
ICE / Brake guy doesn't want to start until paint guy paints
Upside I can stlil look at my parts that are still in my conservatory
Downside - "I'll give you till next week to move those bits before I do" WIFE
Searching for new "afla petrol head wife"

hope it works out mate
Thanks Kev no probs with you mate
Hopefully just a "blow over" and all be fine
He did do a very good job of filling but maybe had some oil in the air line
keep you posted

good of you to take it well mate, doesn't stop me feeling responsible, but that's just me.
i do hope it resolves itself well

Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:19 pm
by Johnboy
Indeed

Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:34 pm
by Kermit
TBH the price he was asking was so low compared to the quotes down here it was a "pig in a poke"
Other than the final top coat all looks well
Just waiting for them to get back to me
H
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:37 pm
by Johnboy
Cheap isn't always the best ,when there doing a job twice

hope it works out for you chap

Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:27 pm
by Kermit
Johnboy wrote:Cheap isn't always the best ,when there doing a job twice

hope it works out for you chap

Thanks JB,
Seems like it's the worst case senario (or however you spell it

)
Paint shop reckon it's oil in the line and it has to be taken back to before topcoat then re primed with blocker then new top coat
GOOD news though it can now be Verde matesse
Just got to remove most of the stuff I refitted but engine staying put ( they can just do the inner wings and top bulk head as it's not going to be noticeable.
BAD news they can't fit it in till May
Won't be much to post until then
H
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:57 pm
by Johnboy
Not good man, so there putting a barrier coat on to seal what ever nasties are in there

did theses guys spray it? If yes then you should jump the Que.as it's there cock up?
Bad times
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:46 pm
by KevJTD
Johnboy wrote:Not good man, so there putting a barrier coat on to seal what ever nasties are in there

did theses guys spray it? If yes then you should jump the Que.as it's there cock up?
Bad times
it was the cock up here that sprayed it mate

Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 5:32 pm
by Kermit
F***
B*******
S***
Only just gone and broken the front screen
Does anyone know the address / phone number of the "special" one in southampton ?????
Should of said NO to the bloke who helped me re strip the car ready for the second respray
Kev please give the **** who done the job first a right hook from me
Thanks
H
Ps Don't forget to pass on any leads for the screen
H
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:38 pm
by Simonsud
Don't pilkington glass still make them I'am shaw it's been talked about on a thread some where
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:55 pm
by KevJTD
Kermit wrote:F***
B*******
S***
Only just gone and broken the front screen
Does anyone know the address / phone number of the "special" one in southampton ?????
Should of said NO to the bloke who helped me re strip the car ready for the second respray
Kev please give the **** who done the job first a right hook from me
Thanks
H
Ps Don't forget to pass on any leads for the screen
H
if you're anywhere near stanford hall this weekend mate then go down there and burn a few camper vans, the fella responsible for the abortion is there so feel free to "have a chat"
sorry but i don't have any spare screens or you could have one, will need to find one myself soon
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:26 pm
by vecchioalfa
I need a front screen as well, early bonded type, these are available in Italy but expensive & it would probably mean a drive over there to pick it up so hoping a few turn up somewhere in the UK.....
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:41 am
by Veesix75
For screens, has anyone tried Pilkington Classics for prices on new ones?
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:00 pm
by vecchioalfa
Veesix75 wrote:For screens, has anyone tried Pilkington Classics for prices on new ones?
They stock SII / SII screens as far as I am aware, I think for about £300 but not 100% sure, they have no stock of the earlier bonded screens though as far as I am aware
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 5:18 pm
by PETROLHEAD
Good pointer Ade, however, i suspect this is the source i had a friend of mine from National Windscreens attempt to buy from.
National had a screen listed for the Sud, but couldn't find any stock or availability options after 3 days of trawling about for me, so drew an absolute blank.
That said, i've dropped Pilkington an email directly as Carlton Classic Italian, so maybe if they weren't tried by National, i'll get some sort of result from them directly.
I'll post up any info of course as soon as i hear from them one way or the other.
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 6:48 pm
by vecchioalfa
petrolhead wrote:Good pointer Ade, however, i suspect this is the source i had a friend of mine from National Windscreens attempt to buy from.
National had a screen listed for the Sud, but couldn't find any stock or availability options after 3 days of trawling about for me, so drew an absolute blank.
That said, i've dropped Pilkington an email directly as Carlton Classic Italian, so maybe if they weren't tried by National, i'll get some sort of result from them directly.
I'll post up any info of course as soon as i hear from them one way or the other.
They are all available from Italy, I have the details somewhere but postage is not really an option so it would mean a road trip! although I have sent windscreens before but they need to go in a purpose made wooden box to be safe and there is no guarantee a seller is going to do that
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 6:53 pm
by PETROLHEAD
I'll go!
club together folks, and i'll drive over there and collect as many as poss.
be a nice run out in the 164 that!

Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:41 pm
by vecchioalfa
Here is the place (if the link works!)
http://www.windscreen.net/alfaromeo.htm
I havn't contacted them TBH but I will need an early bonded type screen at some point so happy to be part of a deal..
Cheers,
Adi
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:04 pm
by PETROLHEAD
Emailed those chaps too now then Adi, someone has to be able to help eh?
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:54 pm
by PETROLHEAD
There is news on screens!
I'm awaiting some more info, but essentially, yes they are available, for series 1,2,and 3 suds, and early and later sprints too.
They are made to order with a lead time of 4-6 weeks.
They do not supply new seals, but have advised that mk1 escort rubber is a close match for the rubber profile.
I have queried some info on the difference between the screens, namely with regards to whether bonded or sealed, but so far this has been a little vague.
Can anyone shed any definitive info on what cars should have what fitment type?
Judging by the info so far, i think we could be in a position to post up a group buy option soon, and i can start doing battle on prices once we have some numbers to shout with!
So good news so far, and another boast for the power of a mates driven forum! Lol!
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:04 pm
by justsuds
Up to 1976 were bonded screens, '76 to '78 they had a rubber seal with a stainless steel trim insert, and '78 onwards had a plain rubber seal. The screens with the stainless trim were slightly smaller ( 6mm I think ) than the plain rubber seal screens. Also, some cars had tinted glass, probably ti' s, but not sure.
Cheers, John.
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:16 pm
by Veesix75
I also enquired about screens from Italy , as eBay has 2 listed.
However even a good mate who has a regular container shipped direct fom italy wouldn't touch screen delivery, he stopped selling screens years ago due to receiving too many broken ones even in the specialist boxes, no one would insure them so he had to Foot the cost.
So it's Pilkington or shrews 164 boot and road trip.
John (just suds) told me about the 3 different types of screen so I'm sure will help advise on what is needed once shrew has some prices.
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:17 pm
by Veesix75
Touché ......we must have been typing at he same time John.
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:29 pm
by vecchioalfa
My car is a 1976 on a 'P' plate and has a bonded screen, I have left it in place so far through the restoration as there was no problem with grinding marking it as it has a crack across it

and I thought it would maybe help to keep the shell square and true when I was doing major surgery on the sills etc. It can come out now though as the next area on the shell is the screen surround. I will take it out in the next week or so and get some accurate measurements and post 'em up on here. I would imagine the earlier bonded screens must be the largest type as there is no space needed for the rubber seal but knowing alfa there is no guarantee of that!!

Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:53 pm
by KevJTD
mine is a '76 build, R reg car.
no screen in it now, guessing i need the rubber seal with chrome strip......
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:09 pm
by Kermit
Pretty sure I'm sorted now but one link I did take from AO was this guy
templarperformance@gmail.com
His name is Mike and it seems that he can get screens made for less than £100 if there's enough orders - even early ones !!
I will email him now to let him know he might be getting a few orders
H
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:28 pm
by KevJTD
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:38 am
by PETROLHEAD
Wow!
Screens for under 100!
I think the avenues i was following would likely be twice that even ordered in number!
I'll email that fella kermit, see what its all about
Ta very much
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:34 am
by PETROLHEAD
Ok guys, a little news for you all.
Having had a great conversation with Mike, of Templar Performance, i have some news and prices for the suds and sprint equipment available.
Glass windscreens are available, with a lead time of 1-2 weeks depending on warehouse stock or manufacture.
They are approximately 210 and 150 pounds for sud and sprint respectively, and available in clear, bronze or grey tint option (might be a few extra pounds, i forgot to ask!)
For folk pursuing a diet, wishing to shed some weight from their car, he does full polycarb kits for side and rear glass too, for a 2 door sud or sprint, these come out at around 220 pounds for a 5 piece kit.
All prices are plus 20% Vat.
Mike offers a complete fitting service, which after so many years in the glazing industry, i'm sure would be worth considering unless a dab hand with rubbers and sealants, jee's that can get messy!
he has already displayed a great knowledge of the subtle idio's between sud models and screens and reports as follows.
all screen apertures are the same size, series 1 ,2 and 3, the same size.
the later series 3 screen, will fit, properly, all models, if used with a the correct rubber seal profile (or mk2 cortina rubber profile!)
it will also bond in to series 1.
the odd ball is the series 2 with the different rubber seal and chrome spreader, which unless building a concours, i would fit a series 3 glass and new seal, personally.
So thats the word from Templar Perfromance.
I've invited Mike to come and join the forum, hopefully it could be good for all of us, as he certainly knows his onions, and covers just about everything and more!
Re: FMJ820Y
Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 7:05 pm
by Veesix75
Thanks for making all the calls Shrew, that's good to know.