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Posted: **Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:05 pm**

petrolhead wrote:1967 Revolution started Tony, founded i'm told by a guy who raced Alfa's if i recall correctly, who was dissapppointed in the lack of decent strength lightweight alloy wheels available to him.

No wonder they looks so good eh!

They have never done many designs, only about 7 or 8 available today, but they include the 4 spoke you remember, typically fords and mini fitment wasn't it, and a 5 spoke version in the same style, then the RFX's, a six spoke modern motorsport wheel, and then a couple of variations on the 8 spoke minilght design.

Still going today, and up against the cheap import versions in very similar designs.

I love them so i hope they can ride the storm and see the copycat crap off!

Revolution hey-day for me early 70's Spedeworth Hot Rods - now that was racing with characters.

Posted: **Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:05 pm**

i remember barry lee coming to our school with his Mk2 escort to show how driving irresponsibly could injure you...................he proceeded to do drifts, do-nuts and hand-brake turns in a small playground with us standing against the bike shed brick wall watching in awe

the fact that we were told not to reach out to touch the car as it went past shows how far health and safety have come to stop great things like that being done nowadays

Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:46 am**

petrolhead wrote:Tell us more phil,

Custom built wide track axle perhaps?

That is exactly what I thought Shrew....
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Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:49 am**

But then I saw this picture of the inside!!........

Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:32 am**

Good grief!

I just can't work out from the ht leads if its a 6 or an 8, but even so the gearbox and what would have been front wheel drive is a weird one for a yank 8 maybe,

Unless, its from one of the coupes or town cars that were tried in the states, i know Caddilac and a couple of others had a bash at it but they didnt really catch on.

Anymore clues Phil to its origin?

Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:42 am**

It's not a Renault 25/30 transaxle mated to the engine is it? Might even be the whole 3.0l V6 lump as well looking at the rocker breather and exhaust manifold.
I remember them being used by kit builders in GT40 kits as they were meant to be able to take quite a bit of stick. Just a thought.

Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:22 pm**

I got the information and pictures on the RnS forum. Rear renault V6 onto a VW transaxle.
"Well spotted ref the Renault/VW, Charlie who built it owned a company called Witchtune in Ipswich, which happened to be next door to Autocavan VW. So it was handy for parts trying out etc."

Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:27 pm**

Phil, wouldn't it have four reverse gears if it was that way round in the Sprint? Original V-Dub lump would have been behind at the back ?

Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:35 pm**

Wow - that's a real Giocattolo replica, isn't it?

Engine is definitely a Renault V6, but the transaxle is a bit of a mystery - it isn't a Renault UN1 (obvious choice for the PRV engine) or an NG3, it isn't a VW bus transmission and it isn't a ZF. What could it be? VW 914 perhaps?

Some VW diffs can be turned over to work in mid-mount, as could early Porsche 901 transaxles. The Renault PRV engines were mounted ahead of the transaxle anyway, like a big Alfasud, so they work well in mid-mount.

Lauren

Posted: **Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:44 pm**

I was half way there then, cheers.

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:31 am**

And thats a full half closer than me keith!

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:09 pm**

what a mess !

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:25 pm**

Hi Chris
I suspect the engine pic was just after installation as the outside looks to have been finished to a high standard. But I wonder what happened to the car as those pics were late 80's I believe.

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:42 pm**

Any Ideas ??

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:00 pm**

I was going to say it was a BMW 2-litre with Apfelbeck 4-valve heads, but as the cam covers say "Ferrari" it must be an 860 Monza...?

Posted: **Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:41 pm**

Very warm Lauren......

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:19 pm**

Is it one of the Australian V8 engine Sprints, - carn't remember what they were called, - began with a G !
John.

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:23 pm**

Giocattollo john?

I think we're heading towards a Ferrari john, but narrowing it down,

Well, others are much more knowledgeable on this one than me, I'm not claiming any credit!

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:46 pm**

Here is one more shot, it is a rare works car not a replica...

Posted: **Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:58 pm**

Aaah, number 98!

Is it John Edgars 857s Monza?

Posted: **Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:24 am**

BINGO!!
The man does it again.
Well done Shrew go to the front of the class

Posted: **Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:04 am**

More like the library keith!

Took some homework did that one, and i was sure lauren would be first to be honest.

Its quite a giggle this, i think ill shuffle things round and make a long term Puzzle thread,

Keep an eye out for it shortly

Posted: **Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:57 pm**

petrolhead wrote:More later like the library keith!

Took some homework did that one, and i was sure lauren would be first to be honest.

Nah - I'm not very good at 50s stuff, especially Fezzas. They're all just a sea of numerical designators...

Lauren

PS - still waiting for the BMW Apfelbeck

Posted: **Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:25 pm**

Is this OK Lauren?

Posted: **Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:22 pm**

figure this engine out then guys

Posted: **Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:34 pm**

Know idea , but it looks trouble

Posted: **Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:47 pm**

Napier Deltic opposed piston valveless diesel

Am i close?

Posted: **Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:05 pm**

Agree with Shrew, looks like a Marine Diesel Engine

Posted: **Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:05 pm**

could be, can't remember exactly what it said

was just on a display at the railway mueseum at york so most likely a locomotive installation so could well be a deltic

i just liked it for being unusal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZw4FdEuGss

Posted: **Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:41 pm**

Yep, its a Deltic

Chris

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