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Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:12 am
by alfadave
Where do you get front arch liners?
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:40 am
by LooLooSud33Spider
Hi Dave. I’m using a pair from the S3 33 I’ll have to tweak them a bit but the shape is very similar. We fitted some to a sprint many years ago for a customer. I’ve also got a pair from a 145 so I’ll see which ones fit best .
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:34 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Kev. Can I use stone guard over red oxide primer. ? I was going to give the underside a good coating of red oxide then re apply seam sealant to all seams
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:12 pm
by alfadave
Take the red oxide to the tip.
You must have had it for years?
Etch primer gives miles better adhesion.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:59 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
It’s brand new from our hardware store it’s called “red paint undercoat stuff”
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:42 am
by Kegsti66
Hi Lou, sorry I was late to the chat.
I agree with the post Kev put up with regard to the floor pan, if possible.
You can make good all repair areas and coat the floor evenly. If you "spot repair" the original underseal it never feathers back completely so can pickle up. OK if, like me, you then black wax / underseal , but if you want to paint it all, a complete fresh canvas is the best route. Stone chip has quite a lot of solvent in it so it has time to creep under existing material and attack it.
I always etch first , then seam seal. If the etch is a light colour it also shows all the gaps in any seam joints so you can make sure you don't miss any. When the sealer is well cured (we use polyurethane )you can apply the stone chip and put on a nice even coat.
Not trying to blow my own trumpet, but if you look through my thread I did on the Giulietta spider, I covered this part.
A rotisserie is a fantastic bit of kit, but this is the only time I have had one to use.
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Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:08 pm
by KevJTD
One thing I will add to what Keith says, which some may miss but is a vital thing which I've learned to my cost from experience, is the giving it long enough to cure part and the amount of solvent in the stoneguard.
I too use the PU sealer as it's easy to get, smoothes out nicely and being in a cartridge gun rather than a pot it's easy to apply.
But, BUT, it needs quite a few days to harden off before applying stonechip. Or the solvents will lift up the sealer....
Then you're back to square one!
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Thanks for all the advice Chaps. I’m still trying to decide on the final path. I like the idea of body colour on the underside but longevity and protection is a higher priority . That said if I can come up with a solution that is both durable and allows a painted finish then that would be my choice.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:17 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
More new parts coming for the Sud project. These are coming from far far away. info when they arrive
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:26 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
More new bits arrived. All the way from down under. Not cheap but they are NOS and genuine RHD
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:00 pm
by rsfruitbat
Looks very nice Loo. Metal backplates so should last and no problems with plastic going brittle. Have you got everything now?
Rsfruitbat
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:04 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Hi Ade. No I need a pair of the plastic frames I am in touch with Bob wright and he says he can make them if I can get a pair to him to make moulds from. I’ve left a “wanted” in the parts wanted but so far no nibbles
Lou
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:55 pm
by rsfruitbat
Ok. My early booted S3 Sud had metal backplates.
Good luck with the search
Rsfruitbat
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:07 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
I may be able to use my original plastic “pop in lamps” mtgs to get the moulds made. It’ll just take a bit of fibreglass engineering to get them right.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:35 am
by alfadave
Could the original plastic Mountings be restored and painted?
John at Justsuds had new push fit clips made
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:32 am
by LooLooSud33Spider
Hi Dave. Yes they could but these new lamps are the earlier style. ( late S2 early S3 ) My original lamps used the plastic housings with pop in lamp units. ( I even got the clips off John). These new lamps won’t fit in to the later plastic housings as they don’t “pop in” so im looking at making some fibreglass replacement frames because I don’t want to butcher the plastic housings but I should be able to use them as a pattern for the exterior shape
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:33 am
by LooLooSud33Spider
Got new door locks aswell
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:29 pm
by Kegsti66
Looks like Crimbo has come early Lou. Those headlights are a rare find now.
Hope you can sort out the bezels.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:44 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Hi Keith. Yes progress in the shell has been a little slow. But m still picking up bits and pieces when I can. It bugged me that I didn’t have a spare set of keys. I know I could have got generic spares cut. Call me a stickler for detail but I wanted genuine Alfa keys. Ive got a NOS ign switch aswell.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:20 pm
by justsuds
Hi Lou, - I'm pretty sure I have a pair of these, I'll have a root and send you a message and pics.
Cheers, John.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:33 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Thanks John. Please let me know if you find them.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:27 pm
by Sud 145
LooLooSud33Spider wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:44 pm
Hi Keith. Yes progress in the shell has been a little slow. But m still picking up bits and pieces when I can. It bugged me that I didn’t have a spare set of keys. I know I could have got generic spares cut. Call me a stickler for detail but I wanted genuine Alfa keys. Ive got a NOS ign switch aswell.
There was a guy at Spettacolo who was cutting keys from genuine blanks but I can't remember his name, maybe one of our Dutch friends know of his details.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:22 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Looks like, John has saved the day again. Should be picking a good pair of frames up from him on Wednesday.
#@justsuds.

Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 12:00 pm
by LooLooSud33Spider
Still gathering Sud stuff. Amazingly These original NOS Ti front spoiler brackets sprung up on fleabag recently so I Grabbed them. I needed all 5 for the front panel. He had 8 available so I bought them all so we have a few spares if anyone needs any
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:39 pm
by looloosud1984
Progress on the sud has been a little slow recently. That said I’m always looking for and picking up new new bits and pieces when I find stuff that will help when I come to rebuild the car. I’ve been concentrating on the Midget as it’s been a much bigger project than the sud and I just want to get it finished. I’ve really moved forward recently and all the welding repairs should be completed in the next few weeks. Then it’s paint time. We’re actually considering painting it ourselves OHHHH. What could possibly go wrong. !!!!
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:54 pm
by looloosud1984
Quick question do we know how many Aqua verde met suds are left out there. ?.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:28 pm
by Veesix75
Ian Brookfield will possibly know from the sud register.
My guess is 2, teds racer and another road car that was for sale a year or so ago.
Plus yours.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:35 pm
by looloosud1984
Not forgetting Tony Goulds
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:29 am
by Sud 145
Yes I'm still here - thanks Lou.
Re: My 84 Sud Ti Project
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:15 pm
by looloosud1984
Looking good Tony. As usual. I’m just trying to decide if I should keep my car visually original. And Aqua verde is certainly one of the rarer colours for a sud.