NoDiz vs Megajolt Ignition Control

[AlfaCorseChris]

I'm lost :/


Ok, let me try and clear things out for a second....


I need an ignition control which will work on:

a 1.7 16v INJECTION engine
with a supercharger
in order to get rid of the air flow meter
and the dizzy
and which will allow me to adjust the mapping of it for tuning purposes.

In order to do that, it will need to come with a throttle position sensor
be compatible with the current crank sensor
and adjust fuel quantities as well (injectors)


Will this work for me ?

[PETROLHEAD]

I'm lost :/


Ok, let me try and clear things out for a second....


I need an ignition control which will work on:

a 1.7 16v INJECTION engine
with a supercharger
in order to get rid of the air flow meter
and the dizzy
and which will allow me to adjust the mapping of it for tuning purposes.

In order to do that, it will need to come with a throttle position sensor
be compatible with the current crank sensor
and adjust fuel quantities as well (injectors)


Will this work for me ?

NO!


this version is an Ignition only controller Chris, it will do what you ask above, with the exception of adjust fuel quantities for you.

What you will need, if you like the functions and capabilities of this NoDiz unit, is wait for the full ME442 that Matt mentions earlier in the post to arrive.

The ME442 will be a full Ignition and Fuel mapping unit which is no doubt what you will need (or similar) to get the best out of your supercharge set up.


Get Me?

[AlfaCorseChris]

Got you

I got lost in the conversation because we were talking about the NoDiz and then the ME422 came up.

All clear now, thanks

[PETROLHEAD]

which car is it that you have a 16v on your carb manifolds Chris?

[AlfaCorseChris]

the other Sprint, the white one....

well they are both white...

NOT the racing Alitalia one, the other

[PETROLHEAD]

the other Sprint, the white one....

well they are both white...

NOT the racing Alitalia one, the other

Ha Ha! Right.

well thats the perfect candidate for this NoDiz ignition controller.

it will let you map the advance curve as aggressively as neccessary, raise your limit from the old stock dizzy to a new more 16v appropriate ceiling, and give you a precise soft cut for rev limiting.

So safer revving, precise control, more performance and likely more efficiency matching the advance you need for your carbs opening via the throttle position sensor you will fit to your carb linkage, and the engine load 16v trigger wheel crank sensor from stock.

Plus the extra gadgets like bluetooth interface allowing cable less live tuning, and the dashboard interface which is just so cool aswell as practical!


does it make sense now mate?

[AlfaCorseChris]

Yes but its too late for that now for this Sprint.

I've already changed the flywheel to a 1.5 8v carbed model, I changed the oil pump, installed the dizzy and Marelli coil of the 8v carbed, and as soon as I tighten the cam pulleys and fit the radiator, I'm ready to fire it up for the first time.
I would go this route if I knew about it before I did all this work, but for now, I just want to get the car back on the road, so I'm gonna pass on any other upgrades, at least for now

[PETROLHEAD]

Ok, so why not fix the 36-1 trigger wheel to the crank pulley, and add the crank angle sensor there.


this is actually a better idea anyway, as its far lighter than running the stock 16v flywheel in the first place.

but consider this chris, you've installed yourself a nice revvy 16v, and potentially youve now laboured it with the ignition advance curve, and limter, from the old 8v lump by usingb the old 8v dizzy.


i think that may be a step backwards mate if i'm honest mate?

theres still time, and the trigger wheels are cheap as chips, you've no excuse!

[AlfaCorseChris]

I've got plenty of excuses lined up, so dont get me started

Anyway, its not like its something that cant be done after the car is finished
At the moment I've got more serious mods to do on that Sprint

[PETROLHEAD]

Don't get me wrong Chris, i am in the same boat, plenty of other stuff to do, BUT, this is a group buy thread, and Matt has offered a notable discount, so don't miss out if you do actually want one in the long run mate

[AlfaCorseChris]

Not getting you wrong mate

Its just that Wanting one and actually Needing one are two different things.

I need to save some money so I can finally finish my Sprint and some more money to start working on my SUD :/

Hate to miss on this opportunity, but I would feel much more comfortable buying this when I'm ready to install it on the car and actually feel the difference.
My "Buying and Storing parts for future use" days are over

[PETROLHEAD]

Not getting you wrong mate

My "Buying and Storing parts for future use" days are over

aaah but its so much fun!

[Kermit]

Hi Shrew, whats the latest on these
H

[PETROLHEAD]

hello H


actually i'm glad you asked

if folk would copy and past a definite intent to buy please, i will organise a group order as soon as we have the list together of 5 or more units.

shall i start it with yourself H?

please amend/delete as appropriate

Matt offered these at £225 including vat, plus £7 postage each unit

bloody good value in my book, and my dyno operator is really looking forward to seeing one in the flesh too, in fact he's more excited about it than i am i think!


1 - Kermit
2 - Shrew
3 - John Justsuds
4 - Liam
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etc

[Kermit]

please amend/delete as appropriate

Matt offered these at £225 including vat, plus £7 postage each unit

bloody good value in my book, and my dyno operator is really looking forward to seeing one in the flesh too, in fact he's more excited about it than i am i think!


1 - Kermit Yes
2 - Shrew
3 - John Justsuds
4 - Liam
5 -
6 -
7 -
etc

[kammatic]

just catching up on this thread... I dont need a NoDiz kit for the sud but maybe at a later date for my GTV

anyways i can offer some tips on things mentioned in the thread

I did the 36 less one trigger wheel on my boxer to run with mega jolt, and made a little bracket to fit a throttle pot to the drivers side carb

have attached some pictures for ideas :O)

[PETROLHEAD]

thanks for that Kam.

thats pretty much exactly what you'll be doing i think H.

nice pictures Ta very much

[Kermit]

Been a long while since this one has raised it head !

Question, if I go this way OR megajolt do I still need the dizzy ?
if not ( I assume not) does it come with a blanking plate?
Do I also need new HT leads or are the standard ones OK
Thanks
H

[Spacenut]

Interesting thread this. If I ever get around to getting the spacer gaskets for the cam carriers made up, I will be in need of a distributor-less ignition system for the Alfatune engine.

I was reading that the oil pump driveshaft might be a problem if the distributor is removed - I think AHM make a special spacer bush that sits under a blanking plate. But I am not sure what needs to be kept in check - maybe it just makes a good oil seal? The oil pump is geared off the crank, and the top of the shaft has the offset dog drive for the distributor, so I can't see what can come adrift... maybe I read it wrong???

Lauren

[PETROLHEAD]

Hi all

Im just trying to see if this thread still has any weight?

I know of a guy who would like to get one ordered, at a discount if possible of course, so are there still members interested in a group buy if we can get it down a bit?